Don't get me wrong.....I've had BCBS and I've had other insurance coverages and when it comes to paying claims and taking care of it's customers, BCBS is much better than the other coverages I've had. In my opinion, they are a great insurance company.
It just seems wrong to me, though, to be "nonprofit" and paying out those kinds of salaries, bonuses and benefits.
Should BC/BS (emphasis on the BS) be non-profit? Don't they offer a service for a price? It appears if they are non-profit they are recieiving some tax bennies that perhaps they shouldn't? Again, I don't quite get the non-profit biz too well.
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They fired him. My first question, after reading the article is, "How much is the severance package and will they need to have another increase approved to pay that?"
Seriously though, Is there no law that puts a cap on salaries and administrative costs including benefits for 501 (c) 3's????? And........if not........shouldn't there be?
How can you call yourself a nonprofit organization if the people who work there are living better than kings off of the income????? And then report a loss on top of it, and force price increases????? WOW!
I know.....I'm talking to a whole bunch of conservatives who don't believe in government regulation, but this is really bad.
Did you see the ching Unjhem (sp) is raking in? My oh my!! How does a "non-profit" organization afford to pay out up to a million bucks to a CEO? That sounds like mucho profits to me. I guess I just don't really understand the "non-profit" business well enough.
If you want to delve into the "non-profit" businesses, I would suggest looking into the vision insurance company many of you may belong to: Vision Service Plan (VSP). I would tie your jaw together so you don't bruise it when it drops again.
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Did you see the ching Unjhem (sp) is raking in? My oh my!! How does a "non-profit" organization afford to pay out up to a million bucks to a CEO? That sounds like mucho profits to me. I guess I just don't really understand the "non-profit" business well enough.
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I agree Shayla, that it has to get better instead of worse. We can't take on more. Americans shouldn't even had to pay what they do now. I can't even imagine what plan they might come up with that will actually help this situation. Maybe they have some magic fairy dust in their back pockets.
I think it was Randy that mentioned the question of illegal immagrants and whether we would have to pay for them also. I think we already do pay for all people who do not have insurance in the US and don't pay their medical bills. When people go to doctors and hospitals and don't pay, I believe they just pass the cost along to those of us who do pay through price increases.
them and the insurance companies.... President Obama has got a full plate that's for sure. Maybe he should just pick one or two things....and then "git er done" before he moves to next ones....whoops, wrong Administration...my Bad...
I agree Shayla, that it has to get better instead of worse. We can't take on more. Americans shouldn't even had to pay what they do now. I can't even imagine what plan they might come up with that will actually help this situation. Maybe they have some magic fairy dust in their back pockets.
I think it was Randy that mentioned the question of illegal immagrants and whether we would have to pay for them also. I think we already do pay for all people who do not have insurance in the US and don't pay their medical bills. When people go to doctors and hospitals and don't pay, I believe they just pass the cost along to those of us who do pay through price increases.
Humm...what are taxes going to then. I don't mind paying for a family that is down on it luck..but to pay for them forever is crazy, when I have to pay 150 a month plus 1000 down payment!! We have no dental insurance! But yet I pay for those that cant affort it! HELLS BELLS...I cant affort it!! Why on Earth should I pay for your clean teeth and bill of health...when I can't afford it for my family? Oh excuse me for NOT being Politically correct...but I will feed my family BEFORE I feed the neigborhood!!! This its takes a villiage is nothing more than crap!!!
Sorry, Jib, I didn't ask for details. My point is, though, that when you hear negative remarks about the Canadian system, it's always good to check with Canadians to find out if what you are hearing is accurate.
However, even without rumors flying and lobbyists throwing in their 2 cents, the US will protect private enterprise, including insurance companies, so I don't think a system like this will ever happen in the US. It looks as if the wheels are already in motion to go in another direction. I just hope they can come up with something that doesn't break the bank and isn't so complicated that no one can understand it.
... It sounds very much like Canada's system. I've visited with many Canadians about this and they are very happy with their health care system. When I tell them what we pay for health care insurance, they just shake their heads. When I ask them about some of the arguments that Americans who are against this make, such as having to wait 6 months to get in to see a doctor for non emergency proceedures, they say that this is absolutely NOT true. On that subjuct, let me say that I had back surgery in Billings and had to wait well over 2 months to get in. I had lasic surgery on my eyes in Canada and got in within a few weeks.
My doctor used to practice medicine in Canada, so I asked him about it. He said that they didn't have some of what American doctors consider basic medical equipment.
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My wife is a Canadian citizen and she is completey dumbfounded at how much insurance premiums are in our country. She is an independent contractor, so she has to purchase her own insurance as will I in about 3 months now. ND above is correct in that Canadians do not have to wait if they require emergency procedures or operations... that is something that was more than likely fabricated by American insurance companies who are now shaking in their boots since it is almost inevitable that cheaper health insurance will be offered by the US government within the next 10 years.
My wife's mother is a physician in Saskatoon, Sask. and she does not feel as if she is lacking any sort of "basic medical equipment". I'd be curious as to when your doctor practiced in Canada, where, and what he/she considers basic medical equipment.
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I'm far from an expert on health care, but I do know, that you gotta have insurance. It's simple as that. One appendectomy, or medium sized surgical procedure, or having a baby, is enough to bankrupt someone.
Our company provides health insurance to our employees. If the government starts taxing that or makes it so totally expensive to provide, we will have to discontinue that option. that means more people who cannot afford insurance particularly when their focus is on day to day survival, rather than a what-if-I-need-treatment-next-week mentality.
If President Obama can come up with a universal health care system that works...I am all for it. We hear and see in the news a lot of arguments both ways every day, but in the end, I say again, people need insurance. It is complicated because if the deadbeats of the world start to outnumber the ones who carry them, then who is going to carry the rest of us, the geese that lay the golden eggs, when we can't pop out the gold any more?
What about the illegal immigrants? Don't they deserve the right to be healthy too?
Will those groups and others, start to overload an already thinly stretched health care system by running to the Doctor every time they sneeze or have a runny nose, if it is free?
Will they get prescription drugs and then start to abuse that too? I dunno, it is too deep for me, but I am open to ideas...so in this case, I guess we can at least see how it develops.
Thank You. She just mentioned Employers would not have to pay Health Ins. Plan and also this would get rid of Workers Comp. as everyone would be covered - it would cost you but not as much - The lobbiest of fighting this to the death esp Blue Cross and Blue Shield and Workers comp.. I never take my sis's word to heart have to check it out first. To much going on at the moment. Thank You again for your info and time.
It sounds very much like Canada's system. I've visited with many Canadians about this and they are very happy with their health care system. When I tell them what we pay for health care insurance, they just shake their heads. When I ask them about some of the arguments that Americans who are against this make, such as having to wait 6 months to get in to see a doctor for non emergency proceedures, they say that this is absolutely NOT true. On that subjuct, let me say that I had back surgery in Billings and had to wait well over 2 months to get in. I had lasic surgery on my eyes in Canada and got in within a few weeks.
My doctor used to practice medicine in Canada, so I asked him about it. He said that they didn't have some of what American doctors consider basic medical equipment.
The way it looks to me, Obama seems to feel that he is not at all interested in going with something similar to Canada's system as that is socialism. He wants to make our current system affordable for everyone by subsidising health care for those who can't afford it.
I really haven't made up my mind which would be better. I only know that the current way of doing things is really wrong!
Another one of my sister's called and in Mt. they are pushing for this plan. She gave me a telephone # for the White House to push for this. Steve - Randy - ND - Jib - anyone - you all seem to have a handle on all this.. Any thoughts about this plan. Have not had time as of yet to study it. Will in a few days. Any input on this particular plan would be appreciated. Thanks all.
