Extending the video game analogies, consider the Fallout series. In Fallout, the world has been devastated by a nuclear war that left the United States a post apocalyptic wasteland. In all three Fallout games, however, the currency of choice is bottle caps from Nuka-cola (that universe’s equivalent of Coca-cola…the games have a rather dark and delightful humor.) So bottle caps are currency, which kind of underscores how silly it is to believe that the paper money we have now has any real and lasting value. On the other hand, we have a system that works and will continue to work for the foreseeable future. It’s not sustainable forever, but nothing is in the end.
As for the example of individuals refusing to trade a gold coin for a cup of coffee, I’d say that were the experiment repeated in a more controlled setting the results would likely be significantly different. It comes down to trust, not a lack of understanding or appreciation of gold’s value. Why should I, as a random individual, believe that this coin being offered to me for a cup of coffee is legitimate? I have no proof that this guy isn’t some wacko trying to score a free cup of coffee from me with some token he picked up at the local arcade, so I’m not going to give his argument much credence. Even if the setting was such that the person being offered the deal knew without a doubt that the gold being offered is legitimate, I suspect there would still be several people who reject the offer out of suspension. Why would this person be offering me such a good deal? What’s the catch? The experiment is more about psychology then of fiscal awareness.
The logic of your second paragraph applies to my thoughts about our current administration.
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Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others. – Philippians 2:3-4
Extending the video game analogies, consider the Fallout series. In Fallout, the world has been devastated by a nuclear war that left the United States a post apocalyptic wasteland. In all three Fallout games, however, the currency of choice is bottle caps from Nuka-cola (that universe’s equivalent of Coca-cola…the games have a rather dark and delightful humor.) So bottle caps are currency, which kind of underscores how silly it is to believe that the paper money we have now has any real and lasting value. On the other hand, we have a system that works and will continue to work for the foreseeable future. It’s not sustainable forever, but nothing is in the end.
As for the example of individuals refusing to trade a gold coin for a cup of coffee, I’d say that were the experiment repeated in a more controlled setting the results would likely be significantly different. It comes down to trust, not a lack of understanding or appreciation of gold’s value. Why should I, as a random individual, believe that this coin being offered to me for a cup of coffee is legitimate? I have no proof that this guy isn’t some wacko trying to score a free cup of coffee from me with some token he picked up at the local arcade, so I’m not going to give his argument much credence. Even if the setting was such that the person being offered the deal knew without a doubt that the gold being offered is legitimate, I suspect there would still be several people who reject the offer out of suspension. Why would this person be offering me such a good deal? What’s the catch? The experiment is more about psychology then of fiscal awareness.
Gold is just a safe haven to prevent you from losing all value of your savings in the dollar if you have a lot of dollars saved and don't want them devalued like Steve mentions down to Zimbabwe type inflation,
an ounce of silver would be what could be recognized as small trading coins,
but yeah, in those scenarious, FOOD, WATER, GUNS, AMMO, would be most valuable barter items I'd have to think.
still I thought it was funny that someone wouldn't give a starbucks for a Canadian maple leaf, which is probably 1300$ today, thats the spot price plus the premium because you can't get GOLD for spot price today because of the demand.
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Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty. - Thomas Jefferson
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
In the short run, gold, silver, gemstones and the like would be worth nothing, but the history of civilization proves that there will always be an economic base. It just wouldn’t reappear until after a period of anarchy.
It’s like the Sid Meyer’s Civilization games. When you opt to change your government, you have to go through one turn in a period of anarchy. While you are in anarchy, everything is crazy expensive. After the anarchy is over and the new government is established, prices return to normal, albeit with some possible changes given the nature of the new government. Yes, it’s an exceedingly basic analogy, but it is also true.
The scenario that keeps popping up in my mind is the one where we come into extreme dire financial straights to the point the dollar is worth absolutley nothing. People are rioting, looting, robbing...etc... My question then is...what really is the value of gold...or cash...or any other monetary item? I'm guessing food and other parishable goods would be worth far more than something you can hold a door open with...no?
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Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others. – Philippians 2:3-4
You know, if a guy came up to me on the street with a gold colored coin with Mickey Mouse stamped on it, I’d say no as well, not because I don’t appreciate the value of gold, but because I’d have no proof that the coin in question was actually made of gold. So what does this video actually prove other than people don’t like to pay for shiny objects of questionable value.
My husband would have been spot on. My husband would have loved to find some guy selling gold for 50 an ounce. He would have taken everything he had. He suddenly loves Mickey Mouse. What BEACH?? I doubt he could play that game with many up here. Well not in the group of people I know.
I would have bartered him down for the cup of coffee. hehehe
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