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RE: Arizona


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJwQt91sZgU

great interview, Chuck Baldwin covering U.S. Government going after AZ and other states for trying to protect themselves....



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not only AZ is losing ground I guess,

http://www.prisonplanet.com/mexican-drug-mafia-invades-texas.html

have a feeling this will become more and more of an issue,

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http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.6802/pub_detail.asp

further info on AZ,



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http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin602.htm

the latest from Chuck thought there was a lot of good info in it,



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dose of reality,

http://www.infowars.com/road-warrior-level-collapse-imminent-alex-jones-says-we-must-take-corrective-action-now/

way to go obama!



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well the federal government has neglected to enforce current immigration laws on the books for probably 2 decades,

yeah Obama is to busy golfing
http://www.golfmagic.com/news/obama-slated-for-golfing-during-oil-crisis/7102.html

by the way Obama doesn't have to go after AZ because his Minions are....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/14/justice-sanctuary-cities-are-no-arizona/


p.s.

just so you know, Obama has done nothing positive for the US.  In fact he has out bushed bush expanding all war efforts. 

p.s.s. Glass Steagall act was removed under Clinton which basically allowed the banksters to further destroy the economy, by taking on even riskier gambles, and instead of holding the cards for their own stupid plays WE!!! you and me took on immediate debt of 46,000 for every man woman and child in the USA to pay off the original bailout!!!!  WAY TO GO OBAMA!!!!  Fascism smells doesn't it????

http://www.google.com/#q=glass+steagall+act&hl=en&rlz=1R2SKPB_enUS361&prmd=n&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&ei=uUs-TJy1I8OmnAeq9uDNBA&sa=X&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=12&ved=0CFsQ5wIwCw&fp=ae63381031ac8bf1



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Yep, he has a huge mosquito crisis here in ND that Bush created that he is neglecting as well.   Actually, the flooding that Bush has caused around here is actually helping our mosquito crisis. 

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Obama doesn't have time to go after Arizona.  He has too many important things going on right now.  The economy, the oil spill, the energy crisis, the health care crisis, education crisis, social security crisis, the racism crisis, the "America is mean spririted crisis",  the unemployment crisis (OK, similar to economy crisis but not necessarily according to my college economics teacher),  the Middle East crisis (OK, similar to to mean spirited but not necessarily)... did I miss anything?  He's way too busy for Arizona.  GB jr. caused all this.  So I'm glad Obama is working hard to improve all these things.

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-- Edited by Jimmylikesvikes on Tuesday 13th of July 2010 07:16:40 PM

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http://realityreport.blip.tv/file/3853465/

Obama going after AZ,



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http://www.newswithviews.com/Cutler/michael188.htm

more craziness

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on the California side of it,

http://www.alipac.us/article-5396-thread-1-0.html



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ROFL,

great post guys,

I guess texas is the only state that borders mexico, good to know ;)



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Well, this video is a real comfort.biggrin

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Sue, I edited this to embed the youtube video since I found it very entertaining.  It also prevents us from having to see the harsh responses to this video. 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQp8M0bkarM

I watched this. LMBO!!



This is a video of a city supervisor in support of the boycott against Arizona. She would support Arizona "IF" they bordered Mexico like Texas does.
email her at:
Peggy West -  peggy.west@milwcnty.com

Sue Evans wrote:


 



-- Edited by Steve Powell on Friday 25th of June 2010 08:40:50 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQp8M0bkarM

I watched this. LMBO!!



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fox news' take on the same story,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjkU_8D4psw&feature=player_embedded

I guess we are just going to eventually give more and more ground untill mexicans are allowed to take parts of arizona back,

the federal government obviously has no interest in doing their job in that regard.



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http://realityreport.blip.tv/file/3790405/

giving it back to mexico?

I'm strongly against the REAL ID act, which apparently has some support from the arizona bill, but I support Arizona doing what they can to protect themselves from illegals.


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romoisajedi wrote:

interesting perspective,

http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty573.htm



Great article. More than interesting.

 



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interesting perspective,

http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty573.htm



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Jib, these guys aren't being carded everywhere they go.  This law gives the authorities the ability to question their citizenship without being reprimanded for it.  It removes the "sensitivities" of it all.  I'm tired of being sensitive to those that break the law.

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That source says "versions" similar to the AZ bill. Of course this source wants people to think its the same thing, due to their agenda.

Show me the actual bills so I can see the actual wording. Just think, some of you guys get upset when you're carded at DK's. Just think if you were carded anywhere you walked, including your house.

Might as well make everybody wear their "credentials" on their sleeve like they used to do in the late 30's and early 40's.

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Good for those states!  It just takes one to stand up for what's truly right and those that were too afraid to do so will eventually come out of the woodwork.

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http://standeyo.com/NEWS/10_Immigration/100524.17.states.file.AZ-type.bills.html

looks like more states are joining the fray,



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What is happening against Arizonia?  How would all you like have other state's punish you, for the problems you are having in your state.    It is unbelievable what is happening to the USA for being politically correct.  And School's should be ashamed of themselves how they use children.  It is ugly.  It was a few years ago I mentioned school's - mostly Democrate - and Unions.   And the stuff they shove down our children's throat on our dime for their own benefit.  This has just made that thought concrete in my mind.

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Education: $22.5 billion
Bi-lingual Education: $3.3 billion
AFDC: $2.4 billion
SSI: $2.9 billion
Social Security: $24.8 billion
Housing Assistance: $2.6 billion
Criminal Justice: $2.6 billion
Jobs Lost by Americans: $10.8 billion
Other Programs: $51.4 billion
Food Stamps: $7 billion
Health Care: $1.4 billion

well on the fiscal level look how much it would save to just enforce the laws already on the books, for a country that's currency is being devalued fast do to debts it can't pay this would be one area where we could quickly wipe from the books.

anyways, don't get me rolling on this ;)



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I actually agree with alot of what that article has to say.  I spoke to alot of people out there and they very much echo his sentiments.

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cause the examiner is perfect...

ROFL,

Chucks an upright guy,

just like RP sling mud at someone else...

but I guess some people have nothing better to do...


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romoisajedi wrote:

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin586.htm

chuck knows best ;)

but there are a lot of good points in this article,




Really?  You're quoting the guy who believed this?  Though, I saw that Sorcha Faal was linked in the most recent article of the Williston Wire...so much for intellectual integrity...



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http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin586.htm

chuck knows best ;)

but there are a lot of good points in this article,

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http://www.newswithviews.com/Wall/allan128.htm

thought this was a good write up on some of the latest happenings there,

I think its great that the leaders in that state are stepping up to enforce the law where the feds have long left border states exposed.


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Illinois girls basketball team withdraws from an Arizona tournament.  School says it's because of their immigration law.  Says the school doesn't agree with the law which has made the trip potentially unsafe.

Yet school has sent kids to China and South America in the past.

Parents are ticked at the school for it's decision. 

Sound like some personal agenda's here? 

One of the dad's of the team has asked the question if a family thinks it's unsafe then why can't they make their own choice not to go.  Why take the opportunity away from the rest of the girls? 

Is the school really looking out for the student athletes best interest? Or are they making a political statement?

What would your reaction be if that were to happen here?

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Oro Valley, AZ.  Absolutely gorgious!! 

Anyone that's looking for an R&R retreat.  I took Allegiant Air ($49 a ticket one way) and I'm staying at a place called Golf Villas of Oro Valley ($129 for 1145 square foot 2 bedroom apartment).  2 free rounds of golf per day, we bought groceries so eating is less expensive too.  Hiking in the mountains, relaxing on the patio with a golf course and mountains as our back yard. 

This is the life!!!!



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