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rwaitman · Senior Member

RE: "Obama Loses 2016 Olympics Bid" - and we celebrate it?

Jimmylikesvikes · Veteran Member

rwaitman wrote:

Jimmylikesvikes wrote:

Hey Jib... It's been a while since I've been on this board. But I appreciate your first response to this thread. You said it perfectly. Sometimes headlines get twisted into new news. And really, this news is quit simple. Obama's effort to bring in the Olympics failed. This should be no surprise no matter who are president is at the time.

cantac.. Don't make something out of nothing in terms of this "celebration" you are referencing. I think most folks know what this news really means. It means our president didn't have success in bringing the Olympics to Chicago. That's it. Done deal.

rwaitman.. what can I say.. you say what you mean and you mean what you say. You Obama hater you!

Welll...I don't think Obama hater is the right word, but it will suffice in the context you are using.... I wish he would flat out say what he intends to do, and then do it...or not, and quit dancing....I can't stand that. Whether you liked Ronald Reagan or not...he did that. Whether or not you liked George W Bush, he did that.... If President Obama would do that, I would have a lot more respect for him. Of course, as it stands, I strongly believe if he did so, there would be a new President next time....
;o)
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Yeah, nor do I "hate" Obama.. just having fun. Trying to determine Obama's direction is like President Clinton trying to figure out how many other ways to define the word "is". I've always liked that one.

rwaitman · Senior Member

Jimmylikesvikes wrote:

Hey Jib... It's been a while since I've been on this board. But I appreciate your first response to this thread. You said it perfectly. Sometimes headlines get twisted into new news. And really, this news is quit simple. Obama's effort to bring in the Olympics failed. This should be no surprise no matter who are president is at the time.

cantac.. Don't make something out of nothing in terms of this "celebration" you are referencing. I think most folks know what this news really means. It means our president didn't have success in bringing the Olympics to Chicago. That's it. Done deal.

rwaitman.. what can I say.. you say what you mean and you mean what you say. You Obama hater you!

Welll...I don't think Obama hater is the right word, but it will suffice in the context you are using.... I wish he would flat out say what he intends to do, and then do it...or not, and quit dancing....I can't stand that. Whether you liked Ronald Reagan or not...he did that. Whether or not you liked George W Bush, he did that.... If President Obama would do that, I would have a lot more respect for him. Of course, as it stands, I strongly believe if he did so, there would be a new President next time....

;o)
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Jimmylikesvikes · Veteran Member

Oh.. I guess I hate America. My bad. Wow. You know.. I tried to keep my post simple. But I guess you didn't get it.

On another note, I've been to Chicago many times. I'd rather have people from other countries go to Chicago and spend their money in Chicago while I stay in Rochester, MN where it's clean, low crime, conservative, and well.. dang it.. people like it here.

cantac · Veteran Member

Jimmylikesvikes wrote:

cantac.. Don't make something out of nothing in terms of this "celebration" you are referencing.

Wow. Did you not read my post nor reference the video link? You are claiming that this "celebration of the US losing" is nothing and instead it is a black mark against Obama. Why are there celebrations? Why do you hate America?

I'd love to go to Chicago and check out an Olympics and spend my money there as well as be a proud American...while the tourists spend a lot of money there as well as other major American cities while they're overseas. Again, why do you hate America?

Jimmylikesvikes · Veteran Member

Hey Jib... It's been a while since I've been on this board. But I appreciate your first response to this thread. You said it perfectly. Sometimes headlines get twisted into new news. And really, this news is quit simple. Obama's effort to bring in the Olympics failed. This should be no surprise no matter who are president is at the time.

cantac.. Don't make something out of nothing in terms of this "celebration" you are referencing. I think most folks know what this news really means. It means our president didn't have success in bringing the Olympics to Chicago. That's it. Done deal.

rwaitman.. what can I say.. you say what you mean and you mean what you say. You Obama hater you!

cantac · Veteran Member

dakotadj wrote:

I Just think your being CAN TAC EROUS !!!

Nice one. I think I can like this guy.

rwaitman · Senior Member

stacyslap wrote:

I personally think it is really sad that anybody would celebrate the US not getting an Olympics just because of their hatred of the president.

anyone with any shred of common decency would agree with that one....I do not personally know of anyone who feels that way.

stacyslap · Veteran Member

I personally think it is really sad that anybody would celebrate the US not getting an Olympics just because of their hatred of the president.

Jibslider · Senior Member

cantac wrote:

You are implying that you're such an extreme liberal that if the choice for the 2016 Olympics was between the US or Brazil, you choose Brazil. Please turn in your Social Security card, driver's license, and passport, and I'll give you a ride to the Canadian border. I won't even charge you for gas, because I'll be driving YOUR car. :)

Believe it or not, my paperwork to Immigration Canada has already been submitted... I'm not kidding. biggrin

PS: My wife's Canadian and we want to live closer to family.

dakotadj · Veteran Member

I Just think your being CAN TAC EROUS !!!

rwaitman · Senior Member

...an excellent post.

I think all of us who write here, are pretty much patriotic and love our country....left, right, or middle of the road. I also think that it goes without saying, that while GW Bush was president, the US was vilified and hated throughout the world....but everybody still wanted to come here for the opportunity. Now President Obama has made his magical mystery tour and everyone loves us, or at least loves to see us grovel....and everyone still wants to come here for the opportunity...that is how it has always been and probably will ever be... this is a good place.

Personally, I am anti-obama...and not afraid to say as much. I think he and his philosphies, or at least his policy approach, not to mention the people he has surrounded himself with, are bad for our country.

However, he is the President, and I respect that. I just do not agree with him on just about every issue. We have to live with the system, that's how it works here. The Democrats have control of Congress and the Presidency....but this country is pretty evenly split...and the great majority of people are very centrist....with the fringe elements, both right and left...not helping. So now, probably more than ever...each of us can actually make a difference.

Discussion and debate and more of discussion and debate using logic....I think that is the only way to go. It's just that more people need to take part in that discussion.

;o)
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cantac · Veteran Member

I don't understand what Rio winning the Olympics have anything to do with the subject of my original post. I showed how there are anti-American elements celebrating the US's loss. They don't and did not care about Rio winning. They care to use it for their own anti-Obama tirades, these are facts and the video I provided back it up. And no I'm not defending Obama, I'm not pro-Obama, I'm pro America, pro Liberty and pro Truth. I'm defending patriotism in my country.

As far as Rio "needing" this, yes, sure, but that's another topic. This will bring in a huge amount of badly needed revenue and hopefully national pride in what is what is one of the most dangerous cities in the world. Now's the time to set up a private security firm there and start getting to work....

I hope the above is in line with "civil discourse".

Thank you for your time.

rwaitman · Senior Member

Don't feel bad Jib...I'm as confused as you are.... I am going to have to sit back and absorb Cantac's posts.... they are all over the place...

....if nobody don't lose no perspective...this is going to be fun.....

Cantac comes across like a liberal masquerading as a neo conservative fringe element in a calculated effort to stir up some angst in the more delicate members of the board, or a neo conservative pretending to be a liberal....to tick you off...or something....

the posts flip and they flop....then they flop and they flip....I hope I can keep track....

I know you lean left....and I agree with you on the Olympic thing....I don't think Obama shoulda went there, but I think he went with the mindset of doing the right thing....

I think it is fair enough that Rio got it....don't know if it was smart, but it was fair enough and now we shall see if they can pull it off...

Copacabana beach is fairly nice, but the undertow in places is pretty nasty....and the "street urchins' do NOT like Americans....I'd rather have seen the Olympics in Grand Cayman...now there's a place to go...

....and Cantac...I am not trying to pick a fight... just looking forward to more conversation....keep it civil though, right?

;o)
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cantac · Veteran Member

Are you sane or just weak in literacy? OK sure Rio DEFINITELY needs a boost, especially in security as being one of the top 5 most dangerous cities in the world but that was the outcome vs many other choices.

You said "Second of all, how is the loss to Rio de Janeiro a slap in the face to Obama?? " I didn't say that, the folks and media I referenced said that. And my challenge was to the people who actually believe that.

You are implying that you're such an extreme liberal that if the choice for the 2016 Olympics was between the US or Brazil, you choose Brazil. Please turn in your Social Security card, driver's license, and passport, and I'll give you a ride to the Canadian border. I won't even charge you for gas, because I'll be driving YOUR car. :)

-- Edited by cantac on Sunday 4th of October 2009 12:03:42 AM

Jibslider · Senior Member

cantac wrote:
The benefits of an Olympics lasts forever in a country's national pride. The boon to the economy in every sector would've been amazing as well.

If you are one of those anti-patriotic cowards who spent your day celebrating this as a slap in the face to Obama, instead of understanding the loss to America stand up and show yourself, or forever continue to swill in the sewage your cowardice creates.

To respond to your first paragraph above, the Olympics are a boom to the host country's economy, and Rio's economy has been suffering for decades.

Second of all, how is the loss to Rio de Janeiro a slap in the face to Obama?? I'm pretty damn sure Obama didn't write the proposal to the IOC, all he did was support the Chicago committee's bid and proposal to host the summer games. I still don't see how anybody can blame Obama for not getting the nod to host the games. Can you imagine the outlash American's would have for him if he did not openly support and pull for the games to be in the US again??

Lastly, are you and most other Americans so stuck in your "patriotic" nationalism stupor to realize that South America just won the right to host it's first summer games? I don't see how anybody can be so shallow to not congratulate the Rio committee on bringing the games to their continent. It's not a time to be disappointed in Chicago, or the US... it's a time to be congratulatory and proud that a community can get it's ducks together to host such an important event.

Realize that what just happened is bigger than Obama or the US... it's the advancement of our fellow citizens of this planet. Let your self-centered "nationalism" take a break on this one.

cantac · Veteran Member

"Obama Loses 2016 Olympics Bid"

I was appalled to see parts of the media actually celebrate the fact that we didn't get the 2016 Olympics here on American soil. Shame. Shame on them for such anti-American rhetoric.

Here is a link to a video of these scumbags, upon being informed of the news, a gathering of conservatives at the Americans For Prosperity -- one of the main organizing groups behind the tea party protests, erupted in applause :

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid26857425001?bctid=43158474001

The benefits of an Olympics lasts forever in a country's national pride. The boon to the economy in every sector would've been amazing as well.

If you are one of those anti-patriotic cowards who spent your day celebrating this as a slap in the face to Obama, instead of understanding the loss to America stand up and show yourself, or forever continue to swill in the sewage your cowardice creates.

-- Edited by cantac on Saturday 3rd of October 2009 06:31:18 PM